Keep an OPEN MIN.D.

Gerard Vroomen - 22-May-2020
If you follow us even marginally, you'll know we love our gravel bikes, whether the surface is singletrack, dirt, gravel or asphalt. Yet a few years ago Andy told me he would like to sometimes ride a pure road bike again. 



To be fair, there is not really a "need" for this, an UP, UPPER or WIDE does everything a road bike does. But if you are going to have separate bikes for your road and your gravel outings, you may as well make the road bike a pure road bike.

With Andy as my customer (as is always the case for a new OPEN), I asked him what kind of road bike he'd like to ride. The answer was more or less "whatever you would ride" which was obviously totally unhelpful. It stuck in the back of my head however, so in parallel to the WI.DE. I also started to think about what road bike I really would like to create. 



I love classic steel road frames, especially from certain small builders. I love the look, the feel, the mystique and even the smell of TIG welding. And I'd happily ride a steel frame even though performance-wise it obviously cannot quite compete with carbon. That said, I also like all the technology you can put into a carbon frame. So my dream became to make a carbon frame with top performance features but the sensibilities of a classic frame.

To get from there to a finished product has been a long and painful voyage, but I am really happy with the result. The look is really understated (maybe too understated for some, it doesn't shout "come look at me", but I like that). Will it change the bike world the way the U.P. did? Probably not, you can only do that once a decade if you're lucky. It also doesn't need to, it's a road bike that does exactly what it promises and most importantly, my #1 customer likes it. I hope you and our thousands of other #1 customers like it too. 



So today we introduce to you : the OPEN MIN.D. (MINimal Design). For all the details, check out this page. That also includes all the information on this extremely slim seat tube at 25mm from BB to saddle shown below.

The MIN.D. is available for pre-order now, with delivered scheduled before July 20 (my birthday!) For any questions, please ask them in the comments section below.

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Who are some of those small steel frame builders you would most recommend? Thanks!
Post #1 of 92. Posted by Josh on 22-May-2020 13:45:58 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22243]
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Rich Gangl, Gangl Custom Cycles, Golden Colorado, the finest.
Post #8 of 92. Posted by todd tychewicz on 22-May-2020 16:37:54 GMT in reply to post #1 [22243<--22252]
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For me, it all starts and ends with Pegoretti. Of course while Dario was alive, but still today.
Post #9 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-May-2020 17:32:25 GMT in reply to post #1 [22243<--22254]
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And Richard Sachs....
Post #18 of 92. Posted by JeffW on 23-May-2020 00:59:43 GMT in reply to post #9 [22254<--22263]
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While I own a Breadwinner I really lust after a Speedvagen - both hand built in Portland ( where else right).
Post #64 of 92. Posted by Neil Ashton on 28-May-2020 20:27:34 GMT in reply to post #1 [22243<--22312]
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Great looking frame, and exactly what I'm interested in except for one issue. I ship my bike via BikeFlights around the country for lightweight/fast bikepacking trips. How does the integrated seat mast work with a standard bike shipping box?
Post #2 of 92. Posted by Rex Davidson on 22-May-2020 14:04:08 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22244]
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That depends a bit on your saddle height of course, but there are boxes that can take quite a long mast dimension. I recommend riding everywhere though!
Post #10 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-May-2020 17:33:09 GMT in reply to post #2 [22244<--22255]
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Now you've gone and done it! I was perfectly satisfied with my U.P., and now this! My main question is why you didn't design the frame/fork to accept 38mm slicks? Was it because you feel tires that wide don't adhere to road biking sensibilities, or because that seemingly minor difference would cascade through the entire geometry to create essentially the same thing as an U.P., or was it some other reason? In any case, now you've given me something else to think about!
Post #3 of 92. Posted by Steve Fouga on 22-May-2020 14:07:08 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22245]
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I think as you say, that's basically an UP. By being just a road bike, of course we can tighten up some areas instead of needing more tire clearance everywhere.

Sorry to cause you such pain and anxiety :-)
Post #11 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-May-2020 17:34:33 GMT in reply to post #3 [22245<--22256]
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Beautiful looking road bike. Love the subtle main dark blue color, and the rainbow of Open colors on the inside of the fork is fantastic. Is there any particular stem/handlebar combo you guys like with this new road frameset? Also, what do you recommend as the maximum permitted spacer stack height under the stem for this frameset? Thanks, Bob
Post #4 of 92. Posted by Robert Gardner on 22-May-2020 14:13:55 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22246]
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Andy likes ENVE, I like 3T (but I'm biased as I designed those). In my view, if you need more than 40mm of spacers (headset cover included), you need a different frame (size).
Post #12 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-May-2020 17:35:34 GMT in reply to post #4 [22246<--22257]
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Uhhhg, I am now waiting on delivery of a new bike, wish I knew about this a little sooner. You’ve designed a beauty there and I like the geometry. Doh!
Post #5 of 92. Posted by Dean on 22-May-2020 15:07:46 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22249]
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Sorry, it wasn't ready sooner.
Post #13 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-May-2020 17:35:55 GMT in reply to post #5 [22249<--22258]
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Next bike..;)
Post #16 of 92. Posted by Dean on 22-May-2020 19:42:21 GMT in reply to post #13 [22258<--22261]
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Wow -- I did not expect such a nice surprise on my birthday.

Really love this frame. Love the seat mast, the Syntace dropouts, the generous clearance and the fork design. I think this might be my next road frame.
Post #6 of 92. Posted by Eric Hancock on 22-May-2020 15:14:07 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22250]
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You know where to find us!
Post #14 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-May-2020 17:36:13 GMT in reply to post #6 [22250<--22259]
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Is there a rider weight limit?
Post #7 of 92. Posted by JeffW on 22-May-2020 15:19:01 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22251]
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Beautiful frame, love it. Would have been an even better candidate for the Gran Fondo Magazine (featherlight MIN.D). For now I’ll stick to my UP and Marcelo.
Post #15 of 92. Posted by Renzo on 22-May-2020 18:16:35 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22260]
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Well, it wasn't ready and we like to do something different from the norm with those tests anyway!
Post #57 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 27-May-2020 15:41:01 GMT in reply to post #15 [22260<--22304]
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Looking awesome! Would love to add Min.d to my lovely Wi.De! Could you confirm a couple of things:
1. Is it compatible with Shimano Dura-Ace R9120 Mechanical Hydro Disc groupset?
2. The color listed "black" - is is the same as the midnight blue?
Post #17 of 92. Posted by Susanto on 22-May-2020 21:23:24 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22262]
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1) Yes it is.
2) It's really midnight blue (almost black in the shade, quite blue in the sun). Our webmaster switched out some black vs RTP unpainted vs midnight blue in the color selection menu for ordering, but it should all be good now.
Post #43 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:28:14 GMT in reply to post #17 [22262<--22288]
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What a beautiful bike! I love my OPEN UP. Throw on different tires sizes/tread pattern and it can handle pretty much anything. Such a FUN FUN bike. However, for me personally, I like my bikes to be markedly different. I have a FS MTB for really technical terrains and for fast road rides/races, I go straight to my SWTarm. As much as I love the simplicity, clean and beautiful lines of the MIN.D, just not sure where it would fit in my line up of bikes. Having said that....I'd still consider ordering one :D
Post #19 of 92. Posted by Cni2i on 23-May-2020 01:36:13 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22264]
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I really like the brand color painting in the fork and behind but I would prefer to buy a ready to paint frame, because I love british racing green. Are the color paintings sticker I can buy because I think that fits really well to the green?
Post #20 of 92. Posted by Thomas on 23-May-2020 03:48:34 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22265]
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Hi Thomas, the decals we use are not really of the type that custom painters use. So we provide them with the graphics and they make the decals themselves (or they paint those fades, it depends on their mode of production).
Post #42 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:25:50 GMT in reply to post #20 [22265<--22287]
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Lovely bike with classic looks! Congrats, Gerard and Andy.

For a typical build, say with DA Di2, what weight range do you expect for a size L?

How would you compare your MIN.D to your 3T Exploro (which I own, have our 1000’s of k’s on and continue to love). Specifically I’m thinking of ride compliance, aero-ness, weight, and anything else you would like to comment on.

I ask because I want you to sell me one :D

With regards,
Anees
Post #21 of 92. Posted by Anees Munshi on 23-May-2020 04:02:00 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22266]
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Hi Anees, the bike you see here with SRAM Force AXS was under 7kg, so that's definitely possible with DuraAce and even Ultegra Di2 as well. It's a matter of picking the parts a bit cleverly, the frame (and drivetrain) in the end don't have the biggest effect.

Hard to compare an aero gravel bike with an STW road bike, I mean everything is different. But it probably won't surprise you I like both :-)
Post #41 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:24:23 GMT in reply to post #21 [22266<--22286]
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Very interesting design! What are the implications for packing the bike in a travel case given this seat tube design? Does the seat tube need extra protection? Will the frame fit most travel cases?
Post #22 of 92. Posted by Kevin on 23-May-2020 09:02:36 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22267]
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Oops, didn’t see previous question about bike box fitting. Sorry to be redundant.
Post #23 of 92. Posted by Kevin on 23-May-2020 09:04:50 GMT in reply to post #22 [22267<--22268]
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The Scicon Aerocomfort is a great example of a bag that works with seat masts. I use it with my 81cm saddle height on my UP and don't need to remove the seat post or the stem/bar. So it's a great way to travel, just take the wheels off and put the bike in the bag.
Post #58 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 27-May-2020 15:43:04 GMT in reply to post #22 [22267<--22305]
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Beautiful bike. I got a WIDE a few weeks ago and I've been floored by the level of craftsmanship on the bike, compared to others I've owned. I'm surprised you guys are doing a normal road bike!

A couple questions: if integrated seatposts offer superior comfort, why aren't they present on the latest generation of gravel bikes - why not put one on the WIDE, for instance? Most of the comfort comes from the tires, it's true, but the seatstays help too, so there's room for improvement on top of the rubber. Second, for the MIND you guys went with a shorter rear center and a longer front center than, say, the Roubaix, and many other bikes in the category. What effect does this have on handling, and why did you guys choose it?
Post #24 of 92. Posted by JC on 23-May-2020 11:37:31 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22269]
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As you say, on gravel bikes you have bigger tires for comfort. So I would say the balance of pros and cons is a bit different. That doesn't mean you can't do a gravel bike with a seat mast, or a road bike without one, all of those combinations are valid, it just depends on what your priorities are.

It's easier to build a bike with longer chain stays to create tire clearance, just like it is easier to make the smallest 3 sizes pretty much the same and pushing people's saddle forward through a steeper seattube instead of making a proper geometry. But I digress. I have no idea why other bikes want more weight on the front wheel, but I presume those manufacturers design for a much higher handlebar position -> higher riding position -> body rotates rearward -> weight shifts back.
Post #39 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:20:13 GMT in reply to post #24 [22269<--22284]
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This looks like a fun bike. Is it compatible with Campy mechanical 2 x 12 drivetrains?
Post #25 of 92. Posted by Ron on 23-May-2020 13:21:43 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22270]
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No sizing is given for seatpost height from BB. What is the max height you could have your saddle on the Medium and Large frame? The medium sizing fits me better, but it depends on seatpost length. Would be great to have some more info on this.
Post #26 of 92. Posted by Alexander Neumüller on 23-May-2020 13:33:51 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22271]
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Hi Alexander, those dimensions are in the geometry chart now: https://opencyc...Specs
Post #59 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 27-May-2020 15:44:03 GMT in reply to post #26 [22271<--22306]
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Hi Gerard, is the seatmast topper has a Zero offset option,can it be added in the order? great looking bike looks like my birthday presence this year..Lol
Post #27 of 92. Posted by Ed on 23-May-2020 14:54:09 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22272]
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Hi Ed, the standard top clamp pretty much has a zero offset (it's a few mm but nothing compared to the fore-aft you have on your rails obviously).
Post #35 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:11:22 GMT in reply to post #27 [22272<--22280]
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Andy is looking super strong and ripped. Clearly practicing what he preaches re: don't overcomplicate it, just get out and ride. Pretty inspiring. Bike looks amazing as well. In certain aspects, reminds me a little of the Cervelo R5 California you designed back in the day. Best 2 months of my cycling life was riding the prototype of that frame one summer many years ago. That R5 CA was a triumph, I can only imagine how awesome the MIN.D must be.
Post #28 of 92. Posted by Tom Fowler on 23-May-2020 15:56:15 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22273]
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Hey Tom, it's still "working hard to stay small", not "riding around and watch it grow".
Post #61 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 27-May-2020 15:45:31 GMT in reply to post #28 [22273<--22308]
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The geometry chart that has been posted makes no mention of the achievable saddle height using the integrated Seatpost Mast. Can you provide some info on the saddle height range from the center of the bottom bracket for different size models? Thanks, Bob
Post #29 of 92. Posted by Bob Gardner on 24-May-2020 12:37:02 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22274]
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I'll add that asap.
Post #33 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:03:05 GMT in reply to post #29 [22274<--22278]
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Thanks much Gerard. Beautiful bike, looking forward to ordering one!! Regards, Bob
Post #46 of 92. Posted by Bob Gardner on 24-May-2020 17:52:00 GMT in reply to post #33 [22278<--22291]
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It's there now: https://opencyc...Specs
Post #60 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 27-May-2020 15:44:42 GMT in reply to post #46 [22291<--22307]
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Cant’t wait for July 20. Vacation cancelled by Covid is a Good excuse to Open my Mind. Do you have some closeup Pics of The Midnight blue paint.? Have to think about colour of Chris King components .
Post #30 of 92. Posted by Ø. Danielsen on 24-May-2020 15:19:55 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22275]
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It's a difficult color to photograph because it's almost black indoors but can be quite blue outside. I don't think there is any Chris King colors that matches it, but you could match the OPEN downtube logo fairly well with the CK Turqoise. Or you could match the orange or green from the OPEN head tube circle (and the fade accents).
Post #32 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:02:51 GMT in reply to post #30 [22275<--22277]
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Thank you Gerard,
Nice that it will be a shift in colour ??
The choice had to be between TQ and Navy,
I would try The TQ with The AR SES 3.4.
Very Best
Post #37 of 92. Posted by Ø. Danielsen on 24-May-2020 16:14:21 GMT in reply to post #32 [22277<--22282]
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The smiling face went out with Question mark, sorry of that.
Post #38 of 92. Posted by Ø. Danielsen on 24-May-2020 16:15:56 GMT in reply to post #37 [22282<--22283]
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Funnily the smiley was there in my email notification, just not here. I don't quite understand, so the ?? seems fitting!
Post #45 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:38:26 GMT in reply to post #38 [22283<--22290]
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I have turquoise King hubs and headset spacers on an U.P., with the AR SES 4.5. The turquoise components look outstanding with both the OPEN downtube logo and the Enve wheelset. you will love it.
Post #63 of 92. Posted by Steve Fouga on 28-May-2020 18:54:21 GMT in reply to post #37 [22282<--22311]
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Hi Steve, I'm curious how the CK turquoise matches with the Open blue; is your U.P. in the showcase?
Post #68 of 92. Posted by Renzo on 02-Jun-2020 09:38:35 GMT in reply to post #63 [22311<--22319]
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It is, but unfortunately the photo that shows both hubs and logo is of a different wheelset.
Post #69 of 92. Posted by Steve Fouga on 02-Jun-2020 11:13:28 GMT in reply to post #68 [22319<--22320]
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Beautiful bike Gerard!
Post #31 of 92. Posted by Dave Zabriskie on 24-May-2020 15:59:22 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22276]
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Thanks Dave!
Post #34 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:10:12 GMT in reply to post #31 [22276<--22279]
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Dear Gerard. Comgrats its a beautiful bike :-) Just for the fun of it and out of curiosity. As an original Aero pioneer, you seem to completely ignore this on this bike? Why?
Post #40 of 92. Posted by Finn Boysen on 24-May-2020 16:20:48 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22285]
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Because my customer (Andy) didn't ask for it, I wanted something a bit more with the classic aesthetic as I described, and because there's a time for everything. Back in the day at Cervélo, I liked the R3 projects just as much as the S3 projects, I don't really have a favorite.
Post #44 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 24-May-2020 16:34:29 GMT in reply to post #40 [22285<--22289]
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Yes. Get it. Your citing Dieter Rams above and its a minimalist design. The question in my mind is, if at least of one the fundamental purposes of a Road Bike is to go fast (or at least faster), then the whole separation between e.g. a R3 and a S3 leads to more consumption etc. while a Road Bike that really does everything minimizing the need for yet another bike?
Post #49 of 92. Posted by Finn Boysen on 25-May-2020 04:03:38 GMT in reply to post #44 [22289<--22294]
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Why does it lead to more consumption? People like one or the other? This road bike does everything. It does it in a way that some people prefer, while an aero road bike does it in ways that other people prefer, but they both do the same thing. They get you from A to B under your own power with a smile on your face.

As for reducing consumption, I tell people all the time not to get a new bike when they ask me for advice. Often they don't need a new one. Aero or not.
Post #50 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 25-May-2020 13:15:59 GMT in reply to post #49 [22294<--22295]
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Was kostet das komplette Rad ?in Größe L
Möchte es über jobrad Finanzen,700x35 damit kann man ja alle Jahreszeiten abdecken ?
Bitte um eine Antwort auf meine Fragen.
Danke mfg Thomas
Post #47 of 92. Posted by Thomas Zerbian on 25-May-2020 02:05:02 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22292]
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700x35c würde da nicht passen. Da braucht man doch ein U.P. oder ein MIN.D. mit 700x32c. Komplettradpreisen hängen ab vom Ausstattung, der MIN.D. liefern wir nur als Rahmensatz. Aber unsere Händler können einen Gesamtpreis zusammenstellen.
Post #51 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 25-May-2020 13:17:54 GMT in reply to post #47 [22292<--22296]
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Hi Gerard, Can you please let me know why you charge the same pricing for painted or RTP frames? It would be great if there was a discount considering we are painting them ourselves.
Post #48 of 92. Posted by Andrew on 25-May-2020 03:59:09 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22293]
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Well, 90% of the prep is done on the frame anyway. It depends on perspective, one could also say we don't charge for the remaining 10% on the painted frame.
Post #52 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 25-May-2020 13:18:48 GMT in reply to post #48 [22293<--22297]
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That's dutch humour at its best ????

Good luck with the MIN.D!

As for now, i'd say it is not for me as i already own an UPPER and the UP. On the other hand, that's exactly what i said, when you introduced the WI.DE. And guess what, i bought a WI.DE a few days ago ??

To me the MIN.D is a quite conservative design and not so much about innovation, like the UP has been. It seems to be more about aesthetics with that 25mm diameter seatpost. Or did i miss something in the innovation department?

Best regards
Tom
Post #56 of 92. Posted by Tom on 26-May-2020 19:04:15 GMT in reply to post #52 [22297<--22302]
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Well, it's not that easy to come up with an UP every time. I mean, I would be happy if all I had ever done in my working life was come up with the UP, the rest is all bonus. That said, the way the 25mm seatmast actually functions, and building that without it weighing a ton is quite a bit of work. Same goes for the R-Turn fork.
Post #62 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 27-May-2020 15:50:39 GMT in reply to post #56 [22302<--22309]
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If I order an RTP frame and want it custom painted in the Turquoise color that you offer on the Wide model are there any US or Canada based paint shops you would recommend to do the paint job?
Post #53 of 92. Posted by Teige on 25-May-2020 22:04:06 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22298]
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Here are three in the USA:

Hottubes (https://www.hot...Black Magic Paint (http://www.blac...emier Bicycle Werks (https://premier...site)
Post #54 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 26-May-2020 06:37:07 GMT in reply to post #53 [22298<--22300]
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Hi Gerard
I'm in the market for my second bike. My current is a trek madone, so the idea of not getting another pure road bike is appealing esp since I'm in Mumbai with bad/terrible roads.

Question is, given my limited knowledge on bikes, how do I figure how to put the bike together ? Can I get help from someone (and learn) on the different options and getting it put together in Taiwan itself ?
Post #65 of 92. Posted by sanjay suri on 30-May-2020 14:05:10 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22314]
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Hi Sanjay, your best choice would be to work with one of our online store if there is none nearby. Or to get a complete bike from us. Right now we're sold out, but in a few months we'll have complete bikes again, and those need very little work to get ready once you take them out of the box.
Post #66 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 30-May-2020 15:54:32 GMT in reply to post #65 [22314<--22315]
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Great bike!! I am curious about your thoughts on bottom bracket choices and what works best with a Shimano crankset. Please do keep up the innovation for all things bicycle related. It seems to me you have clarity that shines through the clutter.
Post #67 of 92. Posted by Garth McAdam on 01-Jun-2020 18:26:06 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22318]
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I know there's a lot of chatter on BBs but we haven't really seen issues with any of them on our frames. So whatever you like is fine by us, just don't go too exotic (those may also work but of course we couldn't vouch for them). If you are concerned about creaking (we're not but we know some people are), just get a thread-together BB from Enduro Torqtite or Wheels mfg.
Post #77 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 08-Jun-2020 04:33:32 GMT in reply to post #67 [22318<--22330]
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Working hard to keep it small! It is terrific to get a response directly from you. Many thanks for the advice!
Post #78 of 92. Posted by Garth McAdam on 08-Jun-2020 08:06:58 GMT in reply to post #77 [22330<--22333]
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Hi, very nice bike. I like simplicity. May I know why the rear rotor is designed 160mm only, compared to UP with dual choices? Thanks.
Post #70 of 92. Posted by Dennis Huang on 02-Jun-2020 23:22:06 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22321]
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Hi Dennis, because (1) most people don't use 140mm rotors, (2) most that do shouldn't, (3) not having these adaptors saves weight, reduced complexity, increases stiffness, makes setup easier.
Post #76 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 08-Jun-2020 04:31:37 GMT in reply to post #70 [22321<--22329]
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Hello Gerard,
beautiful, gorgeous bike - congrats!
Already order mine but I have a question (sorry it is a silly one): does a di2 battery fit - or is possible to mount- in the slim and continous seat tube?
thank tou in advance.
ps. still in love with my 2006 R3 :)
Post #71 of 92. Posted by sebastian on 07-Jun-2020 08:26:49 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22323]
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Hi Sebastian, yes the Di2 (and EPS) batteries fit.
Post #75 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 08-Jun-2020 04:26:02 GMT in reply to post #71 [22323<--22327]
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Hi Gerard. As the company name is telling, your are mind open people and this creates real alternative in the current bike industry. Chapeau! I love what your are doing since the early days, I was one of the first served customer in Switzerland some year ago (the Open U.P. was born). Unfortunately I had to leave it for another brand due to geometry not fitting me. For people like me (174 tall, 83cm inseam, BTW, the same as Bernard Hinault), the M was to big (not as compact and dynamic as I wanted). I personally believe that it comes from the fact that 4 sizes is not enough. I’m gonna still dream for a better future at Open.
Post #72 of 92. Posted by William Fracheboud on 07-Jun-2020 08:56:18 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22324]
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Hi William, thanks for the feedback. Respectfully, I don't think it's in the 4 sizes because the gaps between sizes is the same for us as for many brands with 6 or more sizes. We just don't make the outer sizes, but the gaps between our S, M, L, XL are very similar as with other company between their center four sizes.
Post #73 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 08-Jun-2020 04:24:27 GMT in reply to post #72 [22324<--22325]
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But of course, it can very well be the case that the geometry doesn't work for you. I just don't think additional sizes would have made any difference. Whether we make an XS and an XXL doesn't make any difference for your fit.
Post #74 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 08-Jun-2020 04:25:17 GMT in reply to post #72 [22324<--22326]
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Awesome design! I’m curious if the frame compliance scales with size... that is, are the smaller frames softer and larger frames stiffer? Naturally by tube lengths it’s the other way around. I’m a smaller rider and always looking for a fast but forgiving ride.
Post #79 of 92. Posted by Russ Stapleton on 10-Jun-2020 15:33:34 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22334]
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If you mean whether the layup is adjusted per size, yes. Of course it's still true that on any given frame, if you raise the saddle a bit, the compliance goes up. But that is also true for a frame with a standard seat post.
Post #85 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-Jun-2020 07:35:17 GMT in reply to post #79 [22334<--22380]
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My husband-to-be LOVES Open bicycles. He rides a gravel bike and bought me my own earlier this year. We are converting a Sprinter van into an RV. The first thing we did was measure our OPEN bikes to fit in the back under the bed, and then proceeded with the build - out from there forward. I would LOVE to get him the shirt and shorts the gentlemen in the pictures is wearing (OPEN skinsuit ?).
Please let me know how. You all are rock stars.
Post #80 of 92. Posted by Robin Timm on 15-Jun-2020 18:11:22 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22358]
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Hi Robin, really good to hear from you. Converting a sprinter van is the best thing you can do right now in the current situation. You can check out all our clothing on our website here: http://www.open...thing if you need help with sizing just send me a mail and happy to help you (contact on the left side of your screen)
Post #81 of 92. Posted by Andy Kessler on 16-Jun-2020 03:36:15 GMT in reply to post #80 [22358<--22359]
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BTW the person in the pictures is not a gentleman. It's Andy!
Post #84 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-Jun-2020 07:33:35 GMT in reply to post #80 [22358<--22379]
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I have the UPPER and the 3T Exploro. Gravel is sorted! Your pitch sold the MIN.D: 'it’s not about gimmicks, elastomers, electronic suspension or sub-atomic vibration damping graphene-infused nano-particles'. That works for me as the owner of an S Works Roubaix who has always wished for a transplanted front end for that bike from my UPPER... Question: with this new MIN.D geometry (shortened chain stays, integrated seat post and thinner stays and steeper seat post angle, on a scale using the UPPER, how compliant will be the MIN.D in comparison (given I always ride with 40mm tyres at 40psi on the UPPER)? Yes, I know I shouldn't compare a gravel bike with a road bike. The UPPER is too 'gravel' for my roadie inclinations (aka speed and road precision). But my Pinarellos and Wilier are too punishing on our local roads. Our sealed roads here in rural Australia are truely abysmal. Putting it all another way. Is the new MIN.D now the ULTIMATE bike for riding Paris-Roubaix??
Post #82 of 92. Posted by Rod Gill on 16-Jun-2020 03:40:35 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22362]
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Hi Rod, bigger tires will alway be the most effective way to add comfort. The perfect bike for Paris-Roubaix depends also on the rider speed. For a pro, it's probably the MIN.D. For me, it's the UPPER. I think you'll find the MIN.D. to be very comfortable for a road bike, but as you sort of indicated already, it can never have the same plus ride as a 40mm tire at 40psi.
Post #83 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 22-Jun-2020 07:32:17 GMT in reply to post #82 [22362<--22378]
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I have ordered an Open Min.D. I intend to travel to various cycling events. Although excited about the bike, I am having a hard time finding a travel case to fit a bike with an integrated seat post. Do you have any suggestion?
Post #86 of 92. Posted by Cameron on 08-Jul-2020 23:46:14 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22422]
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Hi Cameron, I personally prefer the Scicon AeroComfort, which allows you to just take the wheels off and nothing else (you don't even turn the handlebars. I have a saddle height of 81cm and don't even need to remove the saddle (if you remove the saddle you can probably fit up to around 86cm in it without a problem).
Post #87 of 92. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 09-Jul-2020 03:19:46 GMT in reply to post #86 [22422<--22423]
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Werden die vorbestellten Rahmen bald ausgeliefert?
Post #88 of 92. Posted by Hannes on 14-Jul-2020 09:37:43 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22429]
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Is there a mounting kit for the di2 Battery? Or how can I mount the Battery?
Post #89 of 92. Posted by Ralf on 26-Jul-2020 04:30:33 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22434]
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Today I received my frame and have exactly the same question. I have sought instructions on how to install di2 but found none (as for now). Care to explain or give some advice please Gerard?
Post #90 of 92. Posted by Sebastian on 27-Jul-2020 10:26:32 GMT in reply to post #89 [22434<--22435]
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