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The WI.DE. complete bike is back!

Gerard Vroomen - 10-Sep-2020
Last Fall we did a batch of WI.DE. bikes with Force/Eagle AXS drivetrain and they sold out quickly. So by popular demand, it's back this month.

The basics remain the same:
  • The drivetrain is a Force/Eagle AXS combo. Light, reliable, 12-speed, electronic, what's not to like? The maximum range with a 10-50 cassette is perfect for all the crazy trails you can take the WIDE onto, and the Force parts are very close to their Red siblings and a fair chunk less expensive. Some of you may know that I actually prefer a slightly tighter range (SRAM 11-50 or the ROTOR 11-46 cassette). But since you will replace the cassette eventually anyway (and if you love the WIDE as much as we do, you'll rake up the miles quickly), you can always adjust down the line.
  • For the wheels, We went with DT Swiss again but more importantly, we will now offer both 700c (29") and 650b (27.5") options.
  • Stem, handlebar and seatpost all come from Easton. Nice parts, reasonably priced and not unimportant, the grey graphics match the frame perfectly. Standard road drop, just the way Andy likes it (and you know, he gets to choose).
  • Then maybe the most important part: tires! Lots of options here, but now that Schwalbe has good availability of the new range of Schwalbe G-One Allround tires, it was a pretty easy choice for us. The 700c wheels get the 700x45c version, while the 650b gets the 27.5x2.25" treads.
So here are the two versions. 700c (29"):



And 650b (27.5"):



Some more info from Andy:

 

We like it and hope you do too. If you're interested, don't wait too long as last year we had to disappoint quite a few people. If you order now, the bike will ship within two weeks.

Complete specs and more photos below  

Frame
WI.DE. Grey gloss/matte
Fork
OPEN U-Turn
Rear derailleur
SRAM Eagle XX1 AXS
Shifters
SRAM Force AXS
Brakes
SRAM Force AXS, Rotors 160mm front & rear
Crank
SRAM Force AXS Carbon, 170mm (S), 172.5mm (M), 175mm (L & XL)
Chainring
SRAM 40T
BB
SRAM DUB BB386
Cassette
SRAM CS-1275, 10-50T
Chain
SRAM Eagle
Headset
Cane Creek 40
Stem 
Easton EA70, 70mm (S), 80mm (M), 90mm (L), 100mm (XL)
Handlebar
Easton EC70SL Carbon, 40cm (S), 42cm (M), 44cm (L & XL)
Seatpost
Easton EC70 Carbon, 27.2 x 350
Wheelset
DT Swiss GR 1600 Spline , 700c or 650b
Tires
Schwalbe G-ONE Allround 45mm (700c) or 2.25” (650b)
Saddle
fi'zi:k Antares R7
Bartape
fi'zi:k Tempo Microtex black
Weight
8,6kg (700c) / 8,9kg (650b)
Complete Bike Price (Euro)
€ 5.900 / US$ 5,900














Any questions, just let us know. To order, find a retailer or buy online.

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Comments & Questions

OPEN
What’s the US dollar price, shipped to Boston?
Post #1 of 68. Posted by Fred C. Lane on 10-Sep-2020 11:10:30 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22479]
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US$ 5900. Ships from San Diego.
Post #4 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Sep-2020 11:52:09 GMT in reply to post #1 [22479<--22483]
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OPEN
I ride a 56cm, what size wi.de would i need?
Post #2 of 68. Posted by Jock on 10-Sep-2020 11:46:43 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22481]
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Of course not every 56cm is the same, but our Large is sized like an average 56cm frame.
Post #5 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Sep-2020 11:53:33 GMT in reply to post #2 [22481<--22484]
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OPEN
What is the weight of both options in a 56?
Post #54 of 68. Posted by Jock deBoer on 21-Sep-2020 11:39:31 GMT in reply to post #5 [22484<--22541]
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The 700c bike is around 8.6kg, the 650b 8.9kg.
Post #55 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 21-Sep-2020 11:46:14 GMT in reply to post #54 [22541<--22542]
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last question, is there a weight limit? I weigh 258 pounds
Post #56 of 68. Posted by Jock deBoer on 21-Sep-2020 11:54:02 GMT in reply to post #55 [22542<--22543]
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Well, we test to a very high number, because we like to sleep at night, but the official rider weight limit we quote is 110kg / 242 lb.
Post #57 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 21-Sep-2020 12:02:01 GMT in reply to post #56 [22543<--22544]
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OPEN
Any chance OPEN would do a similar offering for the U.P. or U.P.P.E.R.?
Post #3 of 68. Posted by Heather on 10-Sep-2020 11:50:05 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22482]
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hi Heather, I'll send you an email with options.
Post #6 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Sep-2020 11:55:29 GMT in reply to post #3 [22482<--22485]
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OPEN
Gerard,

I am interested, too.

Thanks.

Leo
Post #9 of 68. Posted by Leo on 10-Sep-2020 15:59:42 GMT in reply to post #6 [22485<--22488]
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OPEN
Exact info on how to order other options are coming in the next few days.
Post #28 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:22:36 GMT in reply to post #9 [22488<--22509]
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Hi Gerard,
could you please send me the options for the U.P., too?
Thanx
Post #23 of 68. Posted by Andi on 12-Sep-2020 06:51:54 GMT in reply to post #6 [22485<--22504]
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Hi Gerard,

And if it is not too much of an effort, would you mind to please forward the options to me as well?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matthias
Post #24 of 68. Posted by Matthias Röthele on 12-Sep-2020 18:32:08 GMT in reply to post #23 [22504<--22505]
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Coming soon
Post #30 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:23:18 GMT in reply to post #24 [22505<--22511]
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Great, thanks!
Post #49 of 68. Posted by Matthias on 18-Sep-2020 05:48:34 GMT in reply to post #30 [22511<--22530]
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Exact info on how to order other options are coming in the next few days
Post #29 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:23:04 GMT in reply to post #23 [22504<--22510]
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GV,
Can you please also email me details on an U.P build?
-B
Post #25 of 68. Posted by Bryan on 12-Sep-2020 22:43:43 GMT in reply to post #6 [22485<--22506]
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OPEN
If you're subscribed to our newsletter this will come in the next few days.
Post #31 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:23:40 GMT in reply to post #25 [22506<--22512]
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OPEN
Hi Gerard - Could you please send me options on the U.P. Thank you so much!
Post #50 of 68. Posted by Ward on 18-Sep-2020 16:08:18 GMT in reply to post #6 [22485<--22531]
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OPEN
When it comes to choose colour matching decals for the finishing kit, why not go the whole hog and spec it with wonderful Ultradynamico Rosé or Cava in the grey race version? No need to worry, the sidewalls are tan-coloured, of course ;P
Post #7 of 68. Posted by Nik on 10-Sep-2020 13:01:45 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22486]
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90% of our customers spec the frameset exactly as they wish. If that is with Ultradynamico, that's great. We actually have a BOTM coming up with their tires.
Post #12 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Sep-2020 17:55:12 GMT in reply to post #7 [22486<--22493]
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Hey Gerard,

can you give us some more hints concerning the specs of the upcoming BOTM? Thanks in advance
Post #18 of 68. Posted by Thomas on 11-Sep-2020 08:17:30 GMT in reply to post #12 [22493<--22499]
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OPEN
Just to be clear, it's just a Bike Of The Month, so a showcase of a build. It's not a limited edition that we offer (of course you can have your OPEN dealer build it just like we did, that's always possible).
Post #32 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:24:43 GMT in reply to post #18 [22499<--22513]
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OPEN
Is this just direct to consumer or can we go through our local OPEN dealer?
Post #8 of 68. Posted by Mike on 10-Sep-2020 13:37:03 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22487]
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As with all our stuff, it's both. People can decide for themselves how they prefer to purchase it.
Post #13 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Sep-2020 17:55:44 GMT in reply to post #8 [22487<--22494]
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OPEN
Do you cut the fork steerer tube to one spacer as shown on the photos or is there a bigger margin to adjust stem height? What is the total height of the spacers? Thanks.
Post #10 of 68. Posted by Ulrich Sander on 10-Sep-2020 16:23:14 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22489]
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No, we leave the steerer long. We recommend 40mm max total spacers on any of our bikes. The steerer can take more, but odds are you're on the wrong size if you need more.
Post #14 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 10-Sep-2020 17:56:32 GMT in reply to post #10 [22489<--22495]
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OPEN
Very interested... wondering how you choose a colour for the frame/fork? How long after placing the order can it be ready? Beautiful products!
Post #11 of 68. Posted by Deus on 10-Sep-2020 16:44:08 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22492]
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hi Deus, the completely assembled WIDE is only available in grey. Right now it ships around 10 days after you order given how slowly logistics still operate in some parts of the world (but it really depends on where it ships to so could be quicker or a bit slower).
Post #33 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:26:23 GMT in reply to post #11 [22492<--22514]
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OPEN
Can I request tan walls on those tires?
Post #15 of 68. Posted by Derek on 10-Sep-2020 19:43:06 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22496]
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Yes, you can request but then we have to say sorry, can't do. But of course, you'll ride this bike so much that you'll soon wear out the tires and then you can put tan ones on there!
Post #34 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:27:30 GMT in reply to post #15 [22496<--22515]
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OPEN
700c is not 29“ as mentioned above ...
Post #16 of 68. Posted by ms on 11-Sep-2020 05:15:37 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22497]
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No? On what rim do you mount a 29" tire if not a 622mm one? Or put the other way around, starting at which tire width do you call it 29" instead of 28"? Remember, a 700Cx23 measures 26.3" actually, about the same as an 26"x2.1".
Post #19 of 68. Posted by Nik on 11-Sep-2020 09:48:36 GMT in reply to post #16 [22497<--22500]
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OPEN
Yes it does, and sometimes also 28" depending where you live.
Post #35 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:28:07 GMT in reply to post #16 [22497<--22516]
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OPEN
Where and when can I buy the de-fender for my WIDE? Days are getting shorter ...
Post #17 of 68. Posted by ms on 11-Sep-2020 05:18:55 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22498]
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OPEN
We get the last pieces from SKS Germany in the last week of October, so then it's a little bit of packaging and we'll start to ship. More info in an upcoming newsletter update.
Post #37 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:31:10 GMT in reply to post #17 [22498<--22518]
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OPEN
Do you offer the complete build in XS?
Post #20 of 68. Posted by Andrew on 11-Sep-2020 14:02:25 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22501]
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Check our next newsletter in a few days.
Post #36 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:28:46 GMT in reply to post #20 [22501<--22517]
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OPEN
Hello Gerard, I see the 650B version in size L is out of stock... will it be available again?
If other options are possible, please let me know
thanks
Post #21 of 68. Posted by Oscar on 11-Sep-2020 14:34:24 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22502]
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OPEN
Hi Oscar, it will be available again but we don't have a firm date yet. As for other options, in a few days we'll have some options in the newsletter so as long as you're subscribed, you'll be the first to know.
Post #40 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:42:30 GMT in reply to post #21 [22502<--22521]
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OPEN
Hello Gerard,
Thanks for the answer, is there a way you could send me an email so I can reply privately to you? I placed my order yesterday and the only contact mail I see is Andy’s.
Post #42 of 68. Posted by Oscar on 14-Sep-2020 08:33:57 GMT in reply to post #40 [22521<--22523]
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Hi, i sent an email regarding in a inquiry if i can get the complete bike set up in a xs size? Im 5”4, or the size small is good for my height as well?
Post #22 of 68. Posted by Kevin on 11-Sep-2020 16:07:11 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22503]
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OPEN
Please answer
Post #26 of 68. Posted by Kevin Risos on 14-Sep-2020 02:54:59 GMT in reply to post #22 [22503<--22507]
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Hi Kevin, "more or less" is the answer, we're working on something and will have more info via our newsletter in a few days.
Post #38 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:32:44 GMT in reply to post #22 [22503<--22519]
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With regards to your size, it depends a bit on the distribution of that 5'4". My wife is 5'4" and rides the S, but there are also some with that height on the XS. Just send me a message with the contact form on the left and some info on what bike you currently ride (model, size, stem length, spacers under the stem) and we'll take it from there.
Post #41 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:49:18 GMT in reply to post #22 [22503<--22522]
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Hi Gerard,

I used to own a specialized diverge in a size 49, the stem was 60mm and handle bar was 380mm that i felt was to small but the rest like the 170mm crank size was perfect.
Post #43 of 68. Posted by Kevin Risos on 14-Sep-2020 11:13:45 GMT in reply to post #41 [22522<--22524]
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OPEN
how many mm of spacers under the stem?
Post #44 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 11:27:29 GMT in reply to post #43 [22524<--22525]
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No spacers

I attached the link of the bike i used to own. Thank you for your reply

https://www.spe...-5149
Post #45 of 68. Posted by Kevin Risos on 14-Sep-2020 11:31:09 GMT in reply to post #44 [22525<--22526]
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OPEN
Hey Gerard, this is the exact question for my wife as well. We are looking to purchase either a Wi.de or an U.P. (small or x-small). What do you recommend? Using the same questions as you have above, my wife is 5'4" and currently rides a 52cm Trek Madone (v1), she has 38cm handlebars, her stem length is 90mm and her spacers are 1.5cm and a head tube length of 150cm so a total length of 165cm with the spacer. Does it make sense to go with a XS or S? Thanks in advance for your help.
Post #64 of 68. Posted by Steve L on 09-Nov-2020 23:18:04 GMT in reply to post #41 [22522<--22733]
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Ooops. Just checked again, and it is a Trek Domane. Excuse the inconvenience.
Post #65 of 68. Posted by Steve L on 10-Nov-2020 01:04:36 GMT in reply to post #64 [22733<--22734]
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See my email.
Post #66 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 16-Nov-2020 03:07:16 GMT in reply to post #65 [22734<--22743]
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Hi,
just compared the video and the close up pictures with the Spec Sheet and found out that on the Pictures and in the Video there is a 42 Chainring (40 on the Sheet) and the Eagle 1299 Rainbow Casette inkl Chain vs the 1275 in the Sheet.
So how does the Bike deliver?
Regards Stefan
Post #27 of 68. Posted by Stefan on 14-Sep-2020 05:20:50 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22508]
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Hi Stefan, the specs are as per the spec sheet, so 40T chainring and 1275 cassette.
Post #39 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 14-Sep-2020 07:33:16 GMT in reply to post #27 [22508<--22520]
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OPEN
why no the EASTON EC70AX handlebar?
Post #46 of 68. Posted by rocky on 16-Sep-2020 23:05:39 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22527]
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why no the EASTON EC70AX handlebar?
Post #47 of 68. Posted by rocky on 16-Sep-2020 23:05:39 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22528]
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OPEN
Is there the possibility to change the spec ( mechanical SRAM, other handle bar)
Post #48 of 68. Posted by JS on 18-Sep-2020 01:46:33 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22529]
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Hi Gerard,
Just to be sure: As I understand you offer a complete built WI.DE and a ‘build it yourself kit’ of the WI. DE and UP(PER) with pre selected part. Or am I misstaken and are all option complete builts?
Because on the website you can choose different configurations of the WI.DE and UP.(PER). Next step is to choose between option for transportation like send the frame to a dealer and the parts to your home adress, or all to your home adress.

Greetings Olaf Oerlemans
Post #51 of 68. Posted by Olaf Oerlemans on 21-Sep-2020 04:44:36 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22535]
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OPEN
I found the answer in your last update.
Post #52 of 68. Posted by Olaf Oerlemans on 21-Sep-2020 05:26:51 GMT in reply to post #51 [22535<--22536]
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Yes, and sorry for the slightly confusing text in checkout about the frameset to the store and the rest to you, that was from before when we only had framesets and things like apparel would for "the rest". So if you select to ship it to yourself, then go ahead. If you would like EVERYTHING to go to an OPEN retailer, just send me a message with the contact form on the left. Groeten, Gerard.
Post #53 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 21-Sep-2020 05:36:51 GMT in reply to post #52 [22536<--22537]
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Thank you, I am already in contact with a local retailer in Alkmaar; Theo Schilder.
They advised me nicely and will send me a proposal.
Groeten Olaf
Groeten
Post #58 of 68. Posted by Olaf Oerlemans on 21-Sep-2020 12:26:54 GMT in reply to post #53 [22537<--22546]
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OPEN
Is the medium still available?
Post #59 of 68. Posted by Eric Breden on 19-Oct-2020 23:05:30 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22697]
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Depends a bit on where you are, wheel size, and if you want a fully built bike with the grey frame or a different color with separate parts kit. For info on how the latter works, check this: https://opencyc...ions. For general availability of the various options in your country, check here: https://opencyc...frame
Post #60 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 20-Oct-2020 05:03:05 GMT in reply to post #59 [22697<--22698]
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I'm in the U S, New Mexico to be exact. Color doesn't matter and preferably the 700c wheels but would take 650 if that's it.
Post #61 of 68. Posted by Eric Breden on 20-Oct-2020 12:03:03 GMT in reply to post #60 [22698<--22701]
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Hi Eric, the store shows the availability of every combo: https://opencyc...rame. I can write one thing here now but tomorrow it might be different again as demand for the complete bikes is high, so stock is low.
Post #62 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 20-Oct-2020 17:57:05 GMT in reply to post #61 [22701<--22702]
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I have the original Open U.P kitted with Sram Red 2x12 (50-34) and (11-36) with Quarq power crank that I purchased from Heath at the 11 Inc in their bright blue swatch. I have used it as a single quiver bike option for a while but find myself using it more as a gravel bike more than anything as I use my Bianchi Otlre XR4 on the road. The gravel roads near my country home have grades that range from 6 to 24% and are undulating, and there are single track trails that cut off of these gravel roads which are often not climbable with my OPEN. I am finding the 2x system (although I have plenty of power in 34-36 to climb anything) to be tedious as the front derailleur moves slightly and rubs against my crank when the going gets rough. I am looking to go to a 1x system and debating between a new Open UP or the Open WIDE. I was leaning toward the WIDE with 650B. What is the CDN$ price?I was wondering if the complete build bike could come with a 42T or 44T (although I understand the 44T may be too close to the frame) quarq power crank. Also wondering if the bar could be changed to a 3T Superghiaia? Or do I build up an OPEN UP again? I would like to hear your thoughts.
Post #63 of 68. Posted by John Zufferli on 29-Oct-2020 13:33:07 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22707]
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Hi John, sorry for the delay. For the Canadian pricing, you're guaranteed best off to go via an OPEN retailer given the duties and shipping. I think you're in the GTZ, so Heath at the 11 Inc would be a good place to go and they can also customize the spec for you (although I know the Superghiaia will have a very long lead-time right now).
Post #67 of 68. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 16-Nov-2020 03:20:30 GMT in reply to post #63 [22707<--22745]
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Belated 2021 greetings, Andy &Gerard! Hope all's well with you. I'm still putting my omata U.P.P.E.R through the ruts and woods - but am now excitedly considering a XS W.I.D.E with MTB type tyres and Ekar build, which may work better in many of our muddy single track trails. I'll be in touch soon, guys. Stay well.
Post #68 of 68. Posted by Alex Iskandar on 08-Jan-2021 23:49:19 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22837]
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