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De-fender ready to order

Gerard Vroomen - 01-Oct-2020
Finally the day is here. SKS in Germany is in the midst of producing our custom blades and stays while our friends at Carbon-Ti are producing custom "mini-axles" to attach to fender to the frame. Both will be delivered to us this month, meaning we can ship them out to you early November. 



But first a step back. We know that many people don't use fenders on our frames, but some do. Our idea with the WIDE was to accommodate the latter without adding ugly fender mounts to offend the former. While it's easy to add some invisible mounts to the fork crown and seatstay/chainstay crown, we weren't too sure about how to do it in the center. 

That is, until we took a closer look at our Carbon-Ti thru-axles. Since they are hollow from the hex key hole through, you can actually fit an old-style quick release inside the through axle. And with that, you could clamp a fender stay onto the frame. That was the low-tech garage version, and eventually it turned into a much nicer & lighter version.

If that sounds complicated, just check out this little video that shows how it works:

 

It's important to note a few things:

  • The fender fights for the same space in the frame as the tire. So installing a fender means you cannot fit as big a tire as you can without.For most riders this will not be a problem because when you think about it, when you ride the sort of muddy terrain that requires the maximum tire size, you're bound to get dirty with or without a fender anyway. Adding a full fender is a great way to turn your WI.DE. into a winter bike.
  • If you're looking to keep the maximum tire clearance and still protect yourself from the worst spray, then something like an Ass Saver or Fender Bendor is a better idea (the latter provides more protection and thanks to the shape of our seatstay crown, it won't affect tire clearance at all. Of course an Ass Saver doesn't either).
  • It's important to note that officially, fenders are designed for tires with no or little profile. Keep that in mind when choosing your winter tire.
  • Careful when ordering the De-Fender from our online store. The complete set consists of the Blades, the Stays and the Mini-axles. We also sell the Blades + Stays and the Mini-axles separately, just in case you lose or damage something. So make sure you order the right set.
  • When you order, you will see "In stock". That's how our store software works, but the fenders won't be in stock until early November. When you check in your cart, you will see this listed correctly.
  • All fenders ship from Germany. For shipments outside of Europe, we use a relatively slow shipping service to keep costs reasonable (fenders are light but relatively bulky to ship). So please allow for approximately 2 weeks of shipping time (and in some cases even longer as Covid still messes up logistics in some parts of the world).

Comments & Questions

OPEN
Is this a wi.de only option? Do they fit an up or upper.
Post #1 of 28. Posted by David Clitherow on 06-Oct-2020 13:25:05 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22647]
OPEN
Curious as well if these will fit the UP?
Post #6 of 28. Posted by Nate Magaret on 06-Oct-2020 15:04:26 GMT in reply to post #1 [22647<--22652]
OPEN
The front fender fits on the U-Turn fork (which is the same on the WIDE and the UP/UPPER). So that you could use. But there is no way to attach the fender to the rear on the UP/UPPER (and also not enough clearance)
Post #8 of 28. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 06-Oct-2020 16:39:00 GMT in reply to post #6 [22652<--22654]
OPEN
The front fender fits on the U-Turn fork (which is the same on the WIDE and the UP/UPPER). So that you could use. But there is no way to attach the fender to the rear on the UP/UPPER (and also not enough clearance).
Post #7 of 28. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 06-Oct-2020 16:38:32 GMT in reply to post #1 [22647<--22653]
OPEN
Could the front perhaps also work on an Exploro flatmount?
Post #16 of 28. Posted by BZE on 07-Oct-2020 02:58:52 GMT in reply to post #7 [22653<--22662]
OPEN
Probably better to wait a few months for that one.
Post #19 of 28. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 07-Oct-2020 04:10:53 GMT in reply to post #16 [22662<--22665]
OPEN
Sounds good, thanks
Post #20 of 28. Posted by BZE on 07-Oct-2020 04:13:42 GMT in reply to post #19 [22665<--22666]
OPEN
Thanks for continuing to work on the fenders. Your fenders look clean and elegant at the contact points with the frame. I have modified some SKS fenders for my OpenUp and appreciate the effort it takes to develop these solutions. In my application, I need the rear fender to reduce spray from my rear tire to the rider behind me, so the fender is about 6 inches from the ground for paceline rides (I'm using my OpenUp as my wet bike on the road for 7 months of wet weather in the Pacific North West).
Post #2 of 28. Posted by Greg Carroll on 06-Oct-2020 13:36:27 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22648]
OPEN
Hi Greg, curious about your modification for the rear fender. Are you willing to share your solution?
Post #4 of 28. Posted by Renzo on 06-Oct-2020 13:58:37 GMT in reply to post #2 [22648<--22650]
OPEN
Greg, I also am curious as to how you've done it on the rear of the UP.
Post #14 of 28. Posted by Adrian on 06-Oct-2020 18:02:54 GMT in reply to post #2 [22648<--22660]
OPEN
In reply to Renzo and Adrian. I started with the SKS SpeedRocker fender. I cut off the seat stay supports, extended the fender to its maximum and attached the front of the fender to seat stay with Zip Ties after drilling an extra hole for the Ties and drilled a new attachment location for the wire support. I have pictures, which won't download here, but I will send pictures to anyone requesting @ greglikesbikes1211@gmail.com
Post #24 of 28. Posted by Greg Carroll on 07-Oct-2020 16:54:47 GMT in reply to post #2 [22648<--22670]
OPEN
Really nice, elegant solution to mount fenders. Guess I can use the front fender on my Up as well as it also seems to have a mounting screw in the fork.
Completely unrelated, but very important question; what is the handlebar tape on the WIDE in this video?Perfect color for my Up; subdued neon green
Post #3 of 28. Posted by Renzo on 06-Oct-2020 13:54:21 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22649]
OPEN
Correct, you can use the front fender on the UP U-Turn fork too. Tape is Fizik and a few weeks of sweat.
Post #9 of 28. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 06-Oct-2020 16:40:20 GMT in reply to post #3 [22649<--22655]
OPEN
Thanks Gerard; sounds like hard work ??
Post #11 of 28. Posted by Renzo on 06-Oct-2020 17:33:24 GMT in reply to post #9 [22655<--22657]
OPEN
Not a few weeks continuous!
Post #12 of 28. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 06-Oct-2020 17:35:55 GMT in reply to post #11 [22657<--22658]
OPEN
Haha, did not even cross my mind; my smiley turned into 2 question marks.
Post #13 of 28. Posted by Renzo on 06-Oct-2020 17:43:52 GMT in reply to post #12 [22658<--22659]
OPEN
and if you can not find the Fizik one there is also the Easton Microfibre tape in green that fits perfect.. Only downside if you ride without gloves like I do then it gets dirty quickly as you can see on those pictures
Post #18 of 28. Posted by Andy Kessler on 07-Oct-2020 03:07:31 GMT in reply to post #3 [22649<--22664]
OPEN
Thank you both for the tape tips!
Any chance you will be selling the front fender seperately? Would be a perfect combination with the speedrocker rear fender for my UP.
Post #26 of 28. Posted by Lucho on 08-Oct-2020 07:17:10 GMT in reply to post #18 [22664<--22672]
OPEN
Hi Lucho, unfortunately we only have it as a set. But we tried to keep the pricing really low so maybe that helps at least a little...
Post #27 of 28. Posted by Andy Kessler on 09-Oct-2020 03:28:49 GMT in reply to post #26 [22672<--22673]
OPEN
Please make these for the UP!
Post #5 of 28. Posted by Michael Swale on 06-Oct-2020 14:04:18 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22651]
OPEN
There are no attachment points nor the clearance on the UP.
Post #10 of 28. Posted by Gerard Vroomen on 06-Oct-2020 16:40:45 GMT in reply to post #5 [22651<--22656]
OPEN
Hi Gerard! If the clearance on the UP isn't sufficient, won't that be the same problem for the Exploro RaceMax then?
Do you know when the Exploro RM fenderset is coming? :-)
Post #28 of 28. Posted by Joren on 09-Oct-2020 05:39:36 GMT in reply to post #10 [22656<--22674]
OPEN
The seat post is the one with shocks?
Post #15 of 28. Posted by James Rosca on 06-Oct-2020 19:55:13 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22661]
OPEN
Hi James, yes it is. Its from Cane Creek called eeSilk.
Post #17 of 28. Posted by Andy Kessler on 07-Oct-2020 03:04:42 GMT in reply to post #15 [22661<--22663]
OPEN
Awfully short
Post #21 of 28. Posted by Christopher on 07-Oct-2020 07:27:13 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22667]
OPEN
What’s the size difference? I can’t find any description about the sizes - thanks!
Post #22 of 28. Posted by Iain McSpinsalot on 07-Oct-2020 11:49:04 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22668]
OPEN
Hi guys, what's the compatibility for 650b wheels? I remember a while back you guys said tire size would be unrestricted, is this still true?
Post #23 of 28. Posted by Julien on 07-Oct-2020 12:41:04 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22669]
OPEN
Will these work with 650b set up and 27.5" x 2.4" tires?
Post #25 of 28. Posted by TH on 07-Oct-2020 19:40:05 GMT in reply to blog [0<--22671]
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